The takedown of Tom James is three years in the making. He knows all the skeletons. He was expecting a phone call to be released and bailed out and apologies and all that kind of stuff. He was the one who believed the most in the purity and potential of government. But the series finale of the HBO political comedy put Gary front and center in a devastating way. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Season 5s Mother in which Selina lost both her mom and, perhaps more importantly, the popular vote got three times the nods of any other episode. As for the other options: He owned a boat in the past and then had trouble getting rid of said boat, so I think he would be very happy in the boat world, although I dont think theres a lot of money in boat rental, he says. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. Gary Anton Walsh (born August 1978) is an American political aide who served as the special assistant and personal aide, commonly referred to as body man, to President Selina Meyer for two decades. Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic Clash, Sheds Light on 'Labor Day' Mystery. It was kinda great., TRUMP MOMENT as @VeepHBO closing credit scene is ???????????? TVLINE | Do you think she backs down out of fear that Gary might use this information to hurt her? ", It was a playful and ideal wink to the very first episode, in which Mike attempted to console Selina about a gaffe by absurdly suggesting that maybe bigger breaking news could overshadow it: "What if Tom Hanks dies? Thats why we have climate deniers, we have anti-vaxxers, and we are seeing what those things wrought. On Sunday night, the series finale of HBOs Emmy-winning, cynical-to-its-corroded-core comedy answered: To hell. And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. I wish in retrospect, we had managed to put maybe one, or two other clues along the way But there is no answer. It just suddenly washed over her what a terrible idea this was, and what she hath wrought?Yeah. "I wanted to say a word about sacrifice," she said. I enjoyed it just because of the fun and the silliness of all the different time periods and all that kind of stuff, the chance to do sort of the Gilbert and Sullivan musical, and that kind of a thing.. Theres no rule that says she has to, but at the end of the day, thats who she is. I started to wonder why Selina Meyer was being punished. Youd hate the flowers, he said, in an unusually seething manner, before adding, but I brought the Dubonnet.Gary then placed the lipstick he had saved for Selinas nomination night on top of her casket. And the camera finds her contemplating it, like struck that its happening. The international opinion on Trump is quite clear, so I think they are fascinated by [whats happening], and horrified, much like a lot of Americans. She adds with a laugh: "So, tough s---. TVLINE | How does this impact their relationship moving forward? Between Sarah Sutherlands Emmy worthy ugly crying and JLDs Emmy-winning performance, I cry from laughter every time I watch this episode. Other episodes tying for second with numerous shout-outs include Season 2s D.C. and The Vic Allen Dinner (as Eman said, It has everything: Kent being evil, Youre a meme, maam, Selina singing, the line Jolly Green Ji** Face.); Season 4s Election Night; and Season 5s Congressional Ball and Kissing Your Sister (aka Catherines documentary). Even though he had a kernel of love for her, he spent so much of his time just trying to please in this codependent love, and the result of that is never good. Do you need me to fly back to New York and get a comb you left there? Totally. And then picked up right where we were [laughs], right back to that sort of withering stare. Starting with the most obvious. So Im really deeply going to miss it, really bad. Hes done outrageous things for her and nothing has yet snapped him out of it. PMC Entertainment. I did what I was supposed to do. This is the main character of a TV show, and you relish in her horribleness. Louis-Dreyfus said she believed something crosses Selinas eyes of perhaps remorse and love for Gary in their goodbye. I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. By 1894, 23 more states had adopted the holiday, and on June 28, 1894 . My hope is that while we are in this horrific Selina Meyer morass, that down the line there is hope. Labor Day, in the United States and Canada, holiday (first Monday in September) honouring workers and recognizing their contributions to society. What we just spoke about is obviously all of Garys story. For this rotted-out soul, was it all worth it?This is my honest opinion. When none of that came to pass, lets do the General thing early in the year and plan her funeral, and then lets jump ahead to the future and see it became the idea. And then he puts a blindfold on, plays the tape, and just starts reaching in the bag for the items. I think that would be important to her., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: The top vote getter was Jonah, with Dan as the runner-up (I would need to work for someone who has a soul, Minh wrote of the latter). [Laughs] Thats a recipe for disaster. So I think the level of depravity that happened here, I wasnt necessarily surprised. She has to be thinking, This is bad right now and this is a little bit bad for me, but I dont think she can be thinking about how horrific the rest of her life is going to be. MANDEL RESPONDS: As far as Gary and Selina parting ways, We think about that. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. Shes a scientist. Developed by Armando Iannucci, it is a long-awaited (five years!) So what is the worst thing that she could do that is unlike anything shes ever done? How are you feeling about the change? Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. By I think its worse than that., Has Mandel decided what happened? In some interesting, weird way, Im almost curious as to what he wouldve done had she actually asked him. I dont think Selina saw it as a gift, but in terms of his life, it was probably the biggest gift. Shell never allow herself to sit in those feelings, but she does feel them and then stuffs them down and turns it back on. The MCUs tiniest heroes are kicking off its biggest phase yet, setting up the next several years of storytelling. He has to be there. That's why he went back. Hes around her again. The pair even sufferedtwin heart attacks last season. And in this case, she didnt even say it, she had the FBI guys come and grab me. And my guess is it was a similar sort of financial campaign thing. But I think for Amy, who was all in on Jonah for a variety of reasons some of which were the decisions shed made in her life in the sense of she chose work over possibly a family and then when you make a decision like that, she had to double down with Jonah. What is left of Gary 24 years later?Look, at some point, there is a sickness in the character. He had all the designer clothes and was always clean-shaven, because God forbid he look like crap compared to her. Oh, that sucks! And it really plays with your emotions, because you start to realize, But I was clapping earlier, but now Im sad that shes doing this to Gary. And that is the conundrum of her, and I love that it puts the viewer in knots in a really hopefully good way. MANDEL RESPONDS: "I didn't know the . TVLINE | What was your reaction when you got the script and read the fight scene? It was really, really fun to do. In Selina's final sceneat least one in which she is not in a casketshe reflexively called out for Gary in the Oval Office, only to have new staffer Keith (Andy Daly) remind her that Gary is gone. Like Gary, she was in this toxic relationship with Selina. Labor Day is on Monday, Sept. 5. Thats actually kind of the perfect paring, if shes the ventriloquist and Im the dummy. I think in some ways she found herself a sort of Dan-esque guy. For many of us, that means time off work, picnics and pool parties, and maybe watching a . Mike says Tom won four Oscars, so was the fourth for Philadelphia 2?You think so? Not Julia, but Selina is like, 'I'm not going to look like s---!' Not to compare it to addiction, but he was addicted to Selina and it takes somebody hitting the bottom to wake up, and that was Gary's rock bottom. So it was just a genuine expression of having missed her, but also having been really glad that she showed up. The coming to terms with what youve done and what you did is somewhat horrific. So I think probably the last 15 years of that prison sentence was spent dealing with that and all those feelings. Early in the season, you gave us a tantalizing and terrifying clue about Labor Day, one in which we learned that it was not a day but a boat, which sends the brain to awful places, along the lines of Natalie Wood or Chappaquiddick. For the greater good. Given Garys history with Selina that breakup, the Labor Day event, the mysterious garbage bags and so much more was this new level of depravity totally unexpected? And so we planted some seeds early on, about them getting drinks. : r/Veep - Reddit; 2.Veep Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic - TVLine As for the others: I understand the Jonah one, but I think theres an opportunity if youre the right person. Im just now thinking about this, but I think during those 20 years, there was probably a good five years in the beginning that he thought she was going to change her mind and wake up and realize how special he was to her. What you realize in the grand scheme of things is that theres very little she has genuinely cared about. Because Gary is so in tune with her emotions, he might have picked up on something in her tone or behind or eyes, and this distracted him so he didnt. Not really, he says. Then obviously they leave and shes there alone, and yeah, I think its full on anger, its full-on recrimination. April 19, 2015, 10:57 PM. But at the moment where perhaps it most counted, she does have these regrets. Some part of me almost wondered that had she asked him, he actually might have been willing to do it. I always catered it to Gary just treating what she was saying as an everyday request and never considering what she was really asking. And they have had this just crazy ping-pong back-and-forth relationship, and he has constantly screwed her over. Hed love to be a food critic. Labor Day represented the "reentry" into city life and the retirement of white summer clothes after a summer of leisure for the upper classes, Steele says. Shell be horrified and then turn into this wonderful person and bring Gary a big fat turkey! Do you believe Selina felt remorse? Warning: This story contains plot details from Sundays series finale of Veep. Veep: Inside the final days of TVs smartest and filthiest comedy Veep stars choose their all-time favorite scenes Watch Veep star Timothy Simons read unaired Jonah insults. Then he resigns. The Ericsson thing it was funny, it was actually Annas idea, and I thought it was very enjoyable. I think if you were a math person, Kent might actually take to you. It just seems like it has to be something we dont know about at all., Gary had to tell Andrew that Selina wanted a divorce, just as he had to tell Ted about their split in that same Season 1 episode. Veep. Dan 2.0 in a different way. I feel like the real road not taken for him wouldve been like a childrens dentist. Thats the byproduct. [Laughs. And were going to see him again. Lets start by cutting to an interview with Veep showrunner and finale writer/director David Mandel, who takes you inside Selinas savage send-off. Thats the interesting flaw of her. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. She couldnt even face Gary to do it, thats how much of a coward she was. Sie knnen Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ndern. The government shutdown episode. What makes it more horrific certainly on Garys part is how innocent and Gary-esque he is right until the end. The same-sex marriage [ban], besides being horrible, unto itself is horrible because its Catherine. I think there was something very funny to me that somehow you end up with him and Spiro Agnew in the same historical footnote. At some point or another, I think I whispered that she won. The three-day weekend it falls on is called Labor Day Weekend.. Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew . I guess as long as you werent a good-looking woman. In the Oval Office after the election, she reflexively calls out for Gary, and when Keith [Andy Daly] reminds her that hes gone, she gets combative with him. That scarily driven, win-at-all costs side of Selina is a hideous sight to behold, except when it comes to the brutal, satisfying comeuppance of Tom James (Hugh Laurie). But in those quiet recesses, that is when it will just constantly hit her of how its not okay. (At least Sufe Bradshaws Sue was still guarding the Oval Office, doing MVP work to block VP Jonah, played by Timothy Simons, from any executive privilege.) Has he forgiven her? Politically-Correct Reaction: "Veep" focused on the unwanted secrets of its staff in "East Wing." Selina and Gary's Labor Day-set secret may have taken center stage, but plot threads . Thats what was so beautiful about the way Dave [Mandel] wrote and directed the episode. And I do think oftentimes in peoples lives they have a father figure but dont quite realize its their father figure until a certain moment comes. And as we started doing this season, we werent trying to be greedy, but I wrote down this idea that wed end up back in the Oval and Sue would be there. How does it feel to have Gary and Selinas relationship be the most powerful punch ofVeep? But I also sort of agree [with Eman]: With Labor Day, at some point you worry that theres no answer that would satisfy anybody, he says. So we were actually in the sound mix of the episode when we were told this. He has no identity outside of Selina Meyer. Why was it so important that Gary would be doing something so Gary-like he picks a seed out of her teeth as they are having this final conversation? We started talking about a very sort of Selina Meyer-esque ending, which is that she gets bumped off the front page by a better funeral. The relationship between Selina Meyer and Gary Walsh has always been hilarious, yes, but it's also what are the words? I kind of love that. He was a huge fan of the show. In this hilarious clip from HBO's "Veep " Selina (Julia Louis Dreyfus) and Gary (Tony Hale) finally have a blowout and essentially reset their relationship. Do you agree? Its fun to go over memories. And I do think in some ways getting away from her mother was the best thing that ever happened to her. It took that. They were putting those two things together and thinking that education is bad, and Im sorry, I think thats wrong. On a personal note, Mandel says the Rizzoli & Isles writers were wonderful neighbors. Yeah. So the other nine, most of them were dramas. Her ending up with Ericsson [Diedrich Bader] is certainly a curveball, but it also feels like in the Veep world, wouldnt Dan and Amy wind up happily ever after?Its funny. Every single night he does it just to be prepared for the next day. In terms of looks, I will say that the idea of Dan really not aging is one of my all-time favorite ideas. And President Richard Splett is that expression of hope for the future. We had this really nice moment after the screening, just kind of catching up and a little bit of chit-chatting. Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer. The actors don't even know. MANDEL RESPONDS: I could see that, he says of Mike as an ineffective but well-liked high school teacher. And theres nothing you could do that would ever satisfy her, he says. I know people have been waiting for it. But if you remember back from the flashbacks, you get the sense theres a reason she couldnt completely get him out of her life and vice versa. To me, what defines the worst is that theres nothing you can do. We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. "I knew about it for quite some time, and it felt absolutely perfect," Louis-Dreyfus tells EW of the story turn. What have I done? You dont really want Selina to be president, you kind of want Julia to be president. At the end of the day, just a small-time guy in a big office. Even though I think Selina is a little bit anti-Semitic, shes not nearly as anti-Semitic as the entire Trump administration, so its hard to compete.. Below, in a chat with THR, Hale digs into the shocking events of the series finale, reveals how he and Louis-Dreyfus went about filming the scene, and offers up a take that might just helpVeep viewers sleep at night when they think about Garys fate. The second he said it, it was just like, Oh, my God. Jonah was going to stall and take too long, and along with the demands, in that stall, Tom James [Hugh Laurie] was going to make his move and swoop in and get the nomination, then win the presidency. I think itd be very fun to work for Dan. Did he give up because he was defeated and heartbroken, or because he wanted to make this sacrifice for her? "There's not an authentic foundation there. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Yes, 85 percent of people said theyd like to know what Gary and Selina were referring to in Season 4s legendary East Wing blowup when he yelled, Can you find somebody else who did what I did? and she responded, You mean on Labor Day? About half of those people, without provocation, also added that theyd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2s Shutdown. The 15 percent who said no to a Labor Day reveal feel as Eman does: Some things are more beautiful when left unexplained., MANDEL RESPONDS: I didnt know the trash bag was on their minds quite as much, but thats fascinating. We talked a lot about a more standard ending, if you will, where Selina is right about to become president and then she was going to do some of the same things offer Jonah the Vice Presidency. In many places, workers toiled for at least 12 hours a day . Obviously, it affects millions of same-sex couples, and its horrific. Amy (Anna Chlumsky) ended up with Ericsson (Diedrich Bader)! So that's what brought him back to that funeral because everybody else could care less about her, but he had this kernel of authentic love for her. After 'Veep's' series finale, Tony Hale speaks to The Hollywood Reporter about the betrayal and flash-forward reveal for his character Gary Walsh. Hahahaha, Brazilian fan Luiz Guilherme Romagnoli laughed. I still love it so much. "There was just an enormous amount of restraint. After both Selina and Gary suffer heart attacks this season, she shows a little humanity when she takes care of him in the basement of her brownstone. I love the idea that he solved it with three states. Happy Labor Day weekend, America. When we see him, hes not looking so great. And that was the beginning of her real healing. I think for the rest of her life she will tell herself it was worth it. But when hes at that funeral and maybe this a little, I dont want to say redemption for Andrew he did love her. I root for her because of amazing acting by her actor. Or, put more bluntly by Eman Abdelmouty: Shes the absolute worst. Thats whats so great about our show we have a lot of rehearsal time. The MCUs tiniest heroes are kicking off its biggest phase yet, setting up the next several years of storytelling. Oh, yes. Its just always been there., Amy (Anna Chlumsky) is so beyond driven to get Jonah elected, and shes relishing in her return to power, but then she reverses course. They sent us something when we won the Emmy. It would have just had less of the footage of The Money Pit and whatnot. So even when shes with people, shes a little bit alone. All season long and for much of the series Veep has been exploring the question: How far is ex-VP, former POTUS, and forever egotist Selina Meyer willing to go to become president? I wanted to come out and remind people just what Veep was. We didnt know if it would happen, and certainly everything would have worked without. ", And Veep truly came full circle in the final seconds of the episode, as CBS Evening News anchor (!) They were very lovely, we miss them, and my mom loved the show, he says. The fact that I saw Selina do nothing was immediate evidence that she was a part of this. He has no clue what is about to happen as they celebrate her nomination. Regret is a part of it, but at the same time, though, I think almost more horror. So I saw that a bunch, and I even saw people thinking he would [be nominated for] president somehow in this convention, that he would somehow emerge from the morass. (Laughs.) Did you ever consider revealing exactly what happened on Labor Day, or is it one of those things that the answer will never be as satisfying as the speculation and your own imagination?I love that everyone has a theory. She just sent him to jail and knowing Selina, she's not going to get him out. What do you think was in the bag (s)? Gary was complicit in this hideous relationship in which he chased affection and validation that was never available. He was ready to do whatever she asked. She made eye contact with Gary, who looked at her for help as he was being led away, to which she simply looked away and continued the speech that she had swiped from the war hero. And there have even occasionally been people [who said], Why does she keep falling for it? And their relationship is also pretty screwed up. Kent (Gary Cole) is a full-on hippie-raising alpaca but wants to focus on his watchmaking! This master-and-servant dynamic gone wrong, between the vainglorious VP-turned-POTUS-turned-legacy chaser-turned-POTUS (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) and the bootlicking bag man/dumped-upon doormat who kept her secrets and prepared her snacks (Hale), served as the beating black heart of HBO's shrewd, crude political comedy for seven seasons. TVLINE | Were you surprised by Garys outburst? Party leaders, looking for someone to beat the popular Laura Montez, turn to Jonah to run for President and throw their support behind him. Viagra Trial Drama Men Up Coming to BBC From Russell T. 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It was probably the most heartwarming Youre my hatchet man line ever delivered.Weve played a lot with the notion of this horrific dad she had, over the past three years. Maybe at that moment she sticks her toe in that regret pond, but then quickly pulls it out, and moves forward with her miserable selfalone, and without anyone or anything in her life of meaning. I think it was hard not to infuse that scene of saying goodbye to him in the wings with too much emotion that was coming from me, personally. And did you initially try to get her back for more episodes this season?I think at some point there was a thought of seeing her back in the Montez [Andrea Savage] days, season 6. I chose my job, and now Ive been given this opportunity. He does do more than fetch my hand lotion. But the way she talks about the position in the finale is so warped its declawing, its demeaning, its worse than death that she sounds victimized for having to serve in that position, which is the second most powerful personOne of the many reasons we called the final episode Veep is that who is going to be her vice president is such a giant piece of her salvation. Ni dung chnh. He knows all the secrets. Weve been gone a year, and were back, and were not taking any prisoners. The first Labor Day holiday was celebrated on Tuesday, September 5, 1882, in New York City, in accordance with the plans of the Central Labor Union. Well, a Christmas Carol! So again, it wouldve been Jonahs fault that she didnt get what she wanted. Can you fill in the gaps. But if you watch when he talks about how she wouldve hated the flowers, theres an anger there. Tricky. Uh, what? 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