My shooting buddy has an LCP. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Nicer than the price would indicate. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. I have two of the Picos. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. None. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. This is NOT a target gun. How so? Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. I used to have one. In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. And for sure never shot one. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. He says it is a blunder. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. Or had a bad exp. One of the finest pocket guns out there. The trigger reset does suck but its still a great gun. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. You can buy 1911s now. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. . I went through 4 LCP. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. No issues to complain about. You get two shots, a single-action-only Its that bad. In a fight you wont notice it. Do not yank the magazine friends. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. Total joke. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. I totally agree. Yes it did. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. This article was total BS. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. Have owned and shot most of them. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Really disappointed in how this was presented. based on what your stupid opinion? Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Im about to order some more. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. AMEN . I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. The sccy is very similar. None. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. No warning shot, no shoot to wound. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Seriously?). My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. He didnt even require them to be positive. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. You have entered an incorrect email address! Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? IT is NOT stiff at all. Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Ultra smooth shooters. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. I just dont see the silent u in that. I have a SCCY too. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. No problems when used within its limits. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. Too small, too weak, too much plastic. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. the fact you just dont like it? I laughed when I got to the CM40. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. OMG! Stainless steel throughout the gun. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. 6. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. The sccy is a great budget pistol. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Great little pistol. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. What utter nonsense! Diamondback has been plagued by trouble. The LCP isnt that bad. Glock 42 4. He says the trigger is horrible? You can get these on line at times for Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. The CM9 is a great gun. Nope. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? All you did is look at numerical reviews on the internet. . Do you really know anything about pocket guns? Super gun, works every time. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Bersa Thunder 5. IMHO it packs a great punch for a pistol that slips away in my pocket. I can do it blind folded. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. I shoot pocket guns all the time. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. And what sucks is I held off buying a 380 cause I really thought the Pico would be great. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. Its a joy to shoot. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. So there. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. 400 rounds! After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . Three weeks before it was even released. You got to be a rookie. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? . Its been reliable since then for me. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? To quote his expertise is laughable. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? No problem with the SCCY at all. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. The Pico is built like a tank. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. Anyone have the Bersa .380. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. and wrote the entire line off. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. capacity. Its pretty clear why. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. I still have the same problem. Mild. I just hated the trigger. Note to self, Get to the range! You really missed this one. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. Trash. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. And probably never fired one. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. +1. My advice. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. I like its feel in my hand. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. He talks about having to yank the Mag. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. I tried to get Gunsgunsguns.net to pop up-no dice in 5 or 6 tries. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. Stainless steel through out the gun. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. LMFAO!!!! It is light and works. It is my bicycle gun. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Bought it brand new. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. CPX 2. The reason I hated it was they are DAO and the trigger pull was a mile long, i found my self pulling the trigger again before it reset. I love the Pico. I had issues with mine to start. No problems what so ever. OMG! People cant make crap up in their comments? Ive no complaints. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. Springfield operator: 5.2 Just like Fords. How anyone can actually report that a gun that has the build quality of the Pico is one of the worst is beyond me. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. The Picos have a huge fan base. This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. I have received grief for it as well. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. Why people follow them is a mystery. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. Funny mine have always worked. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. No issue with it. As in best gun LOL. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. As soon as I saw the title I knew the Pico would be on the list. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). I chose. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. Ill definitely be checking it out. How do they perform? 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