McKinley. I assume I've learned a little more since the last time I taught, and that I've a little more to learn in the teaching. 54AN: Complicated as it is, I can sketch it out: basically, everything is just too dense on the planet, which has been a decision made and a byproduct of technology. 32That gives you a sense of the sound. DR: Apart from what happens during the performance, can writing poetry be like a dance? To come back to this one, I read it as a kind of danse macabre because theres something resembling skulls going on here with the top of the fan supports. When I read The Descent of Alette I am tempted to treat the quotation marks between phrases as breath-markers like on a musical score. 33DR: I think for the reader those part-words can function to foreground an elsewhere. I mean sometimes theres a lot of garbage but not usable garbage and so it takes me a long time to get anything made. Need a transcript of this episode? Its not around me much now. AN: That photo in the middle is me at age ten, I think. Then generations of people had to have to deal with the bad behavior and figure out how to talk about it. One knows ithere, not chains,posh garlands. Its deliberate, in order to find something out. Paris: Gallimard, Bibliothque de La Pliade, 1988, p. 643-753. The incentives to engage in selfish, destructive action are as strong as they always have been. I could have a conversation about Royal Trux: a very chaotic indie group, sometimes awful, sometimes amazingly brilliant. I used to substitute teach for him, sometimes, at Brooklyn College. DR: Yes, the 1971 poem about writing an earlier poem of the same title, a characteristically clever poetic ploy. He spent two years in India, which changed everything about him. It was a collaboration of sorts, though I generally do not collaborate; I really hate it. BAYM, Nina. 27AN: I dont think thats true of her poetry though, and I dont think thats what John did exactly. His poems are totally him; his voice is unique; his sensibility is unique; and he was always basing it on something else; he wanted to be like Frank [OHara] intensely, but there was no way he could be like Frank. Alice Notley was born in Bisbee, Arizona in 1945 and grew up in Needles, California in the Mojave Desert. He gave everybody permission to be funny. The poet reads and discusses her work. AN: I use all those units and I am aware of how they overlap. The Crying Book Reveals How Tears Can Help Us, and How They Cant. which went: If I was the King of the World, Id throw away all the cars, thus broadcasting the idea. 18DR: The conversation has veered far from Needles, which I hope we will return to, as we evoke various social spaces that seep into the poems. , Portland, WA: Fonograf Editions (Octopus Books), 2019. To quote: If its a spiritual offense does it as wrongdoing take place more in more in the second leftover/ as a leftover and is the significance of the double now that I might be might the /one who offends Have you heard it read? [citation needed]. I do write down my dreams, though I havent been dreaming much lately; but Ive been doing that for years. Hastings: Reality Street, 1976. ASHBERY, John. Instead of second-guessing their style, we could talk about the way they handled the tasks. [3] For some 45 years, she has striven against the forces that stifle idiosyncrasy. West Branch, Iowa: Toothpaste Press, 1981. She has long written in narrative and epic and genre-bending modes to discover new ways to explore the nature of the self and the social and cultural importance of disobedience. New York: Scribner Poetry, 2001, p.120-124. She lives in Paris. I use the collages to go on without thinking with words. The artist George Schneeman, perhaps most famous for his artworks that appeared on the covers of dozens of books of poetry, did all of the covers for the magazine. Eileen was in it, as was Bob Holman. These ideas are all very tangible, yet somewhat unconnected when conversed about and referred to. David Reckford, Interview of Alice Notley,Transatlantica [En ligne], 1|2019, mis en ligne le 01 juin 2020, consult le 01 mars 2023. 63DR: Your attitude towards staleness in the academic world, your sensitivity towards these questions of history and politics, indeed your measure and courage for speaking out reminds me of one first-generation New York School poet in particular, Kenneth Koch. At the same moment, at Saint Marks, Bernadette Mayer, Anne Waldman, and I taught poetry workshops. Kilkenny. URL: http://journals.openedition.org/transatlantica/13862; DOI: https://doi.org/10.4000/transatlantica.13862, Universit Paris Nanterre and cole nationale suprieure des beaux-arts de Paris, Creative Commons - Attribution - Pas d'Utilisation Commerciale - Pas de Modification 4.0 International - CC BY-NC-ND 4.0, https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/, Voir la notice dans le catalogue OpenEdition, Plan du site Mentions lgales et Crdits Liens Flux de syndication, Politique de confidentialit Gestion des cookies, Nous adhrons OpenEdition Journals dit avec Lodel Accs rserv, You will be redirected to OpenEdition Search. I think I know how to do things with my voice that are entirely musical. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, 2005. This is before the lost sacred corpus vision, someone says Look at my author photo. 97AN: He is focusing on the foot; and hes probably also aware of the foot when hes doing the short stanzas. Cathy Park Hong has some thoughts for you, and some thoughts on how best to share them. All rights reserved. Ive never thought of her as a poet: sometimes I think she doesnt know anything about poetry at all. In Notleys hands, the free-roving speech of poets like OHara became a new way of exploring the permeability of identity on the page. Alice Notley (born November 8, 1945) is an American poet. Other possible issues: goofy works, "description," dreams (the new gen), school of Susie Timmons, rejuvenation of the "found work," the "line," how to be like Elinor [Nauen] and Maggie [Dubris], how to cultivate inventiveness, strategies for dry spell, dictionaries, diaries, little plays, calligrams, tiles, left-hand margins, how to get great theories and general self-improvement. The others were like me, though Hispanic and black. I had just been in the States. from Barnard College in 1967 and an M.F.A. In this interview, she mentions other New York Poets (John Ashbery, James Schuyler, Frank OHara, Kenneth Koch, Ron Padgett, Eileen Myles, Anne Waldman, Joe Brainard, Allan Ginsberg, and Bernadette Mayer). London: B.T. On Ted Berrigans exuberant and idiosyncratic prose. 89DR: Right, thats a strong, colonizing streak in Western culture. Request a transcript here. [16] Over two nights, November 14 and 15, 2016, Notley read The Descent of Alette in its entirety at The Lab in San Francisco. She was educated in the Needles public schools, Barnard College, and The Writer's Workshop, University of Iowa. Raw language is the final material we have; it is only by shaping and reshaping it that we can hope to rebuild our world. I certainly wouldve used anything to keep from being sent. 122DR: Anne Waldman was an important figure with the [St. Marks] poetry project. New Addresses. Ed. Se encuentra en la Regin Sudeste y en la provincia de Leinster. Philip Gourevitch. Is that right? They would go out in the Hopi pueblo and get whatever snakes there were around, and a quarter would be rattlers, but in Prescott, they only used bull snakes. There was a black woman at a desk when I went in who said, What are you doing here? I just sat down and replied, Im a widow; Ive got two children; I know its been a year and a half since my husband died; Im trying to stay at home as much as I can and I have a part-time job (I was working for Allen Ginsberg at the time). New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 1979, p. 911-1772. Its a reasonable question to ask about For the Ride, which begins with a challenge to the reader: Youll have to decipher whats going on, as it happens. I grew up with the Mojaves, going to school with them. Its from Homer. I started noticing my dreams before I met Ted [Berrigan], but he used his dreams, and I just started doing it more after I was with him; then, after he died I did it even more. (1979), in talking about Marianne Moore, they say: Pound writes with the phrase, Williams writes with the line, H.D writes with the image, Wallace Stevens and Gertrude Stein write with the word, but Marianne Moore writes with the entire stanza, and I was just wondering if there was a unit that you use? DR: The conversation has veered far from Needles, which I hope we will return to, as we evoke various social spaces that seep into the poems. and Laurence B. HOLLAND. Where Leftover Misery Goes.. They measure out a skittering meter, question languages capacities in the face of violence, and remind us of its primal connection to bodies living and dead, speaking and silent. I used to substitute teach for him, sometimes, at Brooklyn College. (1954): that book is fantastic; he caught the new line, which he refers to in one of his letters. Death is for a moment, beauty is for all time, about World War II and people being away at the war. OHaras insouciance has made his work popularan antidote to the high seriousness that poetry sometimes invokes to prove its worth. My mother had broken her hip. Ive always had trouble getting materials here. I never understand what to do or how to do it, I understand that I As in I the People, the speaker in this masterpiece questions the relationship between person and nation and between private and publicbut this time in the face of great personal loss. , and she taught me the song later, and my father taught me the chant for the Apache Dog Dance. I was influenced by Koch, particularly by the period starting with the second The Circus (1971). There are others over there. Scenes, tones, and pronouns shift without warning. For death? And theres a poem called This Kind of Paradise (1986) where the Hopis suddenly appear in a bureaucratic Food Stamps Office. This is typical of what happens when I make a collage. Photographer unknown, Alice Notleys father doing the Hopi snake dance, c. 1945, courtesy of the Alice Notley, re-photographed by Daesong Kim. AN: Like dolmensyes, something like that. The former Presidents political and legal challenges are mounting, even as some polls indicate that he still has a lot of support among Republicans. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search inputs to match the current selection. Notleys ceaseless productivity hints at a method counter to the heavy emphasis on, and even fetishization of, craft that forms the cornerstone of poetrys increasing professionalization. 3Alice Notleys poetry has evolved through many phases and experiments, as her output continues to be strong, and is increasingly studied academically. ButI forget. She received a BA from Barnard College in 1967, and an MFA from the the Writers' Workshop at the University of Iowa in 1969. A passage from For the Ride (2020), by Alice Notley. I would write during that high, meanwhile I would listen to Bob Dylan tapes. Chicago European Edition #3. NOTLEY, Alice. Need a transcript of this episode? The late Gracie Allen was a very lucid comedienne. Kenneth Koch Selected Poems. He could write any time he wanted to; Im like that too. I was wondering if your poems that address completely despicable people might be a case of carrying the enemy on the shoulder. NOTLEY, Alice. He gave everybody permission to be funny. New York: American Poets Project Library of America, 2004. NOTLEY, Alice. When he died in 2000, Alice Notley was sufficiently settled into Paris to remain there. 99AN: Frank caught how great Pictures from Breughel and Other Poems (1962) was. Would you like to come? I didnt go. Written after the death of her brother, a Vietnam veteran who suffered from PTSD, Notleys searing elegy challenges the Western poetic tradition by drawing attention to its complicity in war making and empire building. And with popularity comes influence: one thinks of the sunny romanticism and Instagram-readiness of Having a Coke with You (the more abstract, difficult side of OHaras work has yet to gain influencer status). Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. 53DR: The disturbing political and historical moment we are experiencing could disrupt many collective dreams. I always seem to be erasing and starting over, rather than picking up where I left off, even if I wind up taking up the same themes. How Spring Comes The stream of shattered consciousness is occasionally punctuated by shaped picture-poems, variously representing a ship, a face, a winged coyote. 39DR: It seems to be an inspired collage. Ted had left Sandy; I was living in sin with Ted, which Peggy didnt seem to mind at all, as she liked me a lot. New York: Unimproved Editions, 1986. At the same moment, at Saint Marks, Bernadette Mayer, Anne Waldman, and I taught poetry workshops. My parents were from Arizona. You know Newman makes these large, abstract works. Her last collection, Mysteries of Small Houses, was a finalist for both the Pulitzer Prize in poetry and the Los Angeles Times Book Prize. The designer of the cover made an extract basically, making it wrap around the book cover, which was an attractive idea. 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Ruth Lilly Prize winner Alice Notley on the voice and spirits of her poetry. A close relationship with the poet Anselm Hollo, who was teaching at the program at that time, led to Notley leaving Iowa City for Morocco in 1968. Notley has stayed very involved in the preservation of both Berrigan and Oliver's works, having edited and written introductions for a number of their books and she continues to be a prolific and powerful force in contemporary poetry, winning the Leonore Marshall Poetry Prize in 2007 and the Ruth Lilly Poetry Prize in 2015. That gives you a sense of the sound. The same style extends to other poems from this time period, such as White Phosphorus. His reviews and interviews have appeared in Kenyon Review, The Rumpus, and Pleiades. The magazine ran for eight issues, three of which were published while Notley and Berrigan lived in England. One year at a big Thanksgiving dinner, I sat next to the poet Michel Deguy; many of his friends in Paris were met for instance when playing tennis. 51My current process is to write in the morning. I like that it's a manuscript and not a book. AN: Its not a dance; its a pattern of sounds: its in my voice which I think is sometimes better than singing, when I say the poems. There were four kids, including a couple still at home. As Notley writes in "The Prophet" (1981): "One is you & all this & two & yet." The yet is where poetry begins. AN: His werent poetry workshops: he taught undergraduate courses at Columbia. There are different paces and reading styles possible; the performance can be different each time. Mixed media collage, 8.5 x 9.75 in. Recent poems about pregnancy, birth, and being a mother. Notley began the magazine to connect with preexisting poet friends and meet new writers on both coasts while living in the midwest. In the serious, reflective poem, Your Dailiness (1971), you mention finally understanding Willem de Koonings painting. There was a tribe in my home town, the Mojaves. For your work, from that angle, the place to start would be the collages you make, your visual art. . Ones not overshadowed like in forests elsewhere, but its particularly harsh, and hot: the Mojave goes up to 120-125 [Fahrenheit], sometimes. I didnt know any French; I had no French when I came here, basically, in my late forties. where it was horizontal on the page. DR: To pursue with craft questions: in the. Eileen was twelve. She has received the Griffin Poetry Prize, the Los Angeles Times Book Award for poetry, and an Academy Award from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. Oakland: O Books, 1995. I always liked his paintings. Now there are all these plaques in my neighborhood saying: Here 300 French school children were sent to the camps. I woke up one day. For example my poem In the Pines has been set to music by AroarA, who are two members of the Canadian, indie group, Broken Social Scene, Andrew Whiteman and Ariel Engle, whove done something mesmerizing; also, my son Eddie is both a poet and an indie musician: I know about some indie people from about 2000, not so much after that. If this poem demonstrates her abiding interest in metaphysics, it also speaks to the immediate political realities of being a woman writer. New York: Penguin Books, 1977. New York: American Poets Project Library of America, 2004. contact email: nicksturm00@gmail.com The range, audacity, and radical commitments of Alice Notley's poetry are unmatched in contemporary literature. Sign up for the Books & Fiction newsletter. Then I found all the spots around the world in them and talked about them as being set in the world as a whole, saying that was a fitting poetry for now, when were all crossing borders all the time: spanning geography is the main event today, because there are so many people. She was the only woman in her genre and one of two in the entire graduate writing department. The Descent of Alette is a 1992 book length poem by the American poet Alice Notley. My poems are full of creosote bushes, and athel trees which are extremely ugly trees that somehow got there, who knows how, maybe by way of the Colorado River which goes right by where I grew up. It also marks a shift in Notleys poetics away from the freewheeling chattiness of the New York School and toward something more visionary, historical, and grandly narrative. 67My poem The Prophet (1981) is based on his poem Some General Instructions (1971). New York: Unimproved, 1986. 64AN: He was a good friend. . Said Let there be lightbulbs & liquefaction. At the moment, it feels like theres not much going on there; because its all going on at the surface actually. AN: I read it when I was about twenty-three, in English. 5Alice Notley is an extraordinary reader of her own work, which, in the last year, she has read in the U.S.A. (Providence, R.I., and Brooklyn, N.Y.), in the U.K. (Birmingham), and in France (The Pompidou Center, Paris). of Marie de France. There are others of course, but could you begin by speaking around those atmospheres? and Laurence B. HOLLAND. DR: There was a pop song in the 1960s by the Three Dog Night. 59DR: With your interpolation of popular culture into epic poetry, I would expect you to be a household name here in France. I have some Cherokee Blood, perhaps one-sixteenth Cherokee. In 1972, Berrigan and Notley married and moved to Chicago, where they lived until 1976. From February through June 1974 in Wivenhoe, Essex, Notley wrote her book Songs for the Unborn Second Baby (United Artists, 1979). Poems for milestone birthdays and those in-between. Grave of Light. In response, another woman informs: "'he . AN: Well, you learn a lot from teaching, at the beginning. That piece is from a postcard of a painting of Notre-Dame and evil spirits flying out of it. In Heavens Breath, Lyall Watson created a wildly entertaining history of the wind. NOTLEY, Alice. Within the text, a woman is desperate to take her daughter above ground, therefore she offers to pay the tyrant money. Ron Padgett. And its influenced by dactylic hexameter. At a certain point I wrote them down every morning; sometimes I do it more than others. The Goddess Who Created This Passing World Alice Notley: Im from the desert which I found intensely attractive as nature, and its my nature reallyI havent been back in six years but I love. 113DR: Yes, that brings me back to what I was saying earlier about Andr Bretons Nadja who sees things before they happen next and is just carted off: the status of mediums becomes a metaphor for the status of poetry in society. Cherokee. Alma, or The Dead Women. Notleys work is famously heterogeneous, but its possible to see a gradual shift in her work, beginning in the mid-eighties, away from the New York Schools emphasis on ordinary detail and the surfaces of daily city life. The poet and essayist talks about her newest essay collection Minor Feelings, waking Alice Notley, Al Filreis, Erica Kaufman, Joe Milutis, Zack Pieper. 13AN: He had no trust in his own ability to write things out, while he had faith in his ability to find things. After earning her BA from Barnard College and MFA from the Iowa Writers Workshop, Notley traveled extensively around the U.S. and abroad. 99: Eileen Myles. The Paris Review. Indeed, French poetry has had some weird times, where it got so abstract. White Phosphorus (1988) and Beginning with a Stain (1987). I use the collages to go on without thinking with words. Thats why my poetry works so well. Middletown, CT: Wesleyan University Press, 2006. . Although Notley is less known to a casual poetry readershipher inventiveness and audacity are matched by her difficulty she is one of the singular voices in contemporary American poetry. Songs for the Unborn Second Baby. 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